When i think about it i feel it's right to check African American because even though the Caribbean is not the United States it is still apart of the Americas so technically West Indians have a right to say they are African American and i also think it's right to check other because although the Caribbean is apart of the Americas they are (in some cases) looked down upon because their dialect is different some feel they owe it to noone to select African American
Oh yeah my mom moved to America from England 22 years ago and she has never desired to obtain american citizenship
Although the term African-American is used, I believe that it refers to a person of African descent currently residing in the United States. In other words, any Black person in America, which includes naturalized Americans as well as foreign immigrants.
This is the same way that a White person born in Kansas, a White person born in Germany and now living in the US, and a White Irishman would be classified together.
There is a difference between ethnicity and race, although they are used interchangably. Ethnicity refers to culture, while race (theoretically) refers to biological origins. There can be many ethnic origins within one race, which is what you see here.
So yes, a Black person of Caribbean descent would still be classified as African-American, while a White person from Africa would not. Holla!
HU_Intellect wrote: AfroPoeticSista wrote: HUsweetie wrote: Just to test your theory once more... A White girl from South Africa moves to AMerica.. is she Black or African-AMerican, or White?
Think About It...
I posed the same question to my history teacher.
It all depends on your use of the word "Colored." In the media, "woman of color" is used to describe any non-White person. So a "colored" person could be of Asian descent, African descent, Indian descent, Spanish descent(As in Spain), and so forth. I think adding the hyphen to yourself, as in "African-American" confuses things. If you were born and raised in America(as in North America and South America) and your ancestors were slaves stolen from Africa, you are Black. If you are an immigrant from an African country but get citizenship here, you are African-American, just as much as a Nigerian moving to England is African-English.
I think Black should be used if you were born and raised in a place, and the "african-" used if u emigrated.
I'm black. I am of African descent. I will not say I am African-American, however, because I am not an immigrant, nor has anyone in my family stepped foot on African soil since 1798(when my ancestors were stolen from ghana and imported to mississippi).
It's kind of funny now with everyone trying to represent as if they are from Jamaica and the DR when they are not, they are just Black.
All Negro people are of African descent, whether they be from the US, the DR, Jamaica, Brazil, or England.
The white South African immigrant is technically African-American.
If Craig David moved to the Bronx, would you call him Anglo-American?
Yea the issue of black or African America comes up often in our community. I happened to see it a little different than my sista Afropoetic. You see when you limit yourself to just being black your are (in my eyes disowning your African heritage).
Never did I say i disowned my African heritage. I said I am Black, of African descent. Just where I live, when u say African-American, you are referring to immigrants, not african-american as in Oprah Winfrey. If you checked my picture thread, you see all types of African heritage decorations in the background of my house. If you see me in real life, my pride and respect for my African heritage are made manifest in my comportment and dress. If you read my poetry journals you'd see many psalms in praise of Africa. Checked my personal library you'd see much Africana.
But I refer to myself as Black because that is how i see myself.
^^^^^Yea luv. That's what I was thinking you to me are one of the most Afrocentric people on this site (PS I love that :wink: ). But you have the intelligence and education to see the beauty in being "black", but unfortunately many people just see black as a color with no meaning. While black is everything that you mentioned you also have to realize that in today's society "Black" is the color of almost everything bad. Black sheep, darkness to represent evil, I'm sure you already know no reason to go over it.
I say that if you are intelligent enough to know the true meaning of being "Black " then go right ahead, but unfortunately I often hear my brothas and sistas say I am black because I don't wanna have nothin to do with Africa and that SH*T is plain ignorant!
HU_Intellect wrote: ^^^^^Yea luv. That's what I was thinking you to me are one of the most Afrocentric people on this site (PS I love that :wink: ). But you have the intelligence and education to see the beauty in being "black", but unfortunately many people just see black as a color with no meaning. While black is everything that you mentioned you also have to realize that in today's society "Black" is the color of almost everything bad. Black sheep, darkness to represent evil, I'm sure you already know no reason to go over it.
I say that if you are intelligent enough to know the true meaning of being "Black " then go right ahead, but unfortunately I often hear my brothas and sistas say I am black because I don't wanna have nothin to do with Africa and that SH*T is plain ignorant!
co-muthaphuckin signs! i hate hearing people callin eachotha "african" as if its a bad thing. I went to this museum & was looking at an Kenya exhibit & a tourist(a korean man who didn't speak much english)he says was asking me questions about the plants("they have many in africa, right?") and some of the clothing so I explained it to him but had this look on my face at first, he asked,"you look African, right? your people from Africa?" & I said yes he looked at my girl wit the same question & she wz like, i aint no africa i'm american!"all ignorant like. Dude looked confused as hell 'cause her features are stronger than mine :?
See in situations like that you really need to rep your heritage.
Being called "African" doesn't bother me, in fact, it makes me feel proud, but for simplicity's sake, "Black" comes out easier than African-American. Yes, "black" has negitave connotations, like evil, dirt, irresponsible(black sheep), but it is up to US as a BLACK PEOPLE to eradicate such connotations by carrying ourselves in a way to give the word "BLACK" a positive meaning. Until that happens, we will be judged as a group instead of individuals, and we will be thought of as "savage Africans" in the Hottentot, Sambo, Jungle senseThat involves a good 50 million people in this country. so**shrugs**Call me Black, call me African, but don't call me African-American, cuz i'm not an immigrant!
cosigns...
I ahte ignorant people...
Wow I read some very very good points from some different perspectives too and that was what I was looking for. Thanks to everybody who replied. You sure schooled me.