When Has A Non-Member Overstepped Their Boundaries

58 replies · 33657 views · Started by C Diddy · May 2004

C Diddy

I know I am quite knowledgable about black greek organizations (among other things). But when do you think a non-member has overstepped their boundaries. I've been to a web site that was composed of mainly west coast greeks and I know that many of the comments stated by non-members in this forum wouldn't fly over their (mine included). I just wanted to know, aside from perping, when do you think a non-greek has overstepped the boundaries?

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kappanup from washington, DC · Jun 2004

#21 Reply

OoHDatDude wrote:
f*ck all that founding principles nonsense...that ****is played out and lame. you wanna join to "twirl" a cane and throw up a diamond because you seen someone do it and the ****was slick. let's be real man...you're just like everybody else who is interested in fraternities/sororities...it's the glamour and glitz behind it all that attracts you. I wanted to be a Que because they was the nastiest **** around and I like that shyt...that's my personality. On the flip to that, Omegas are some of the most down to earth, realist people that you will ever meet. Can set out a hop on the yard then 10 minutes later go to a meeting and get things done. That's Omega my friend. You're looking at it from the outside looking in. Yea we wear dog collars and whatnot...that even has significance...but I aint here to talk about Omega. Do I apologize if I have offended you in some way..hell no. should you apologize to me? hell no. you have your opinion and I have mine. However, I have concrete backings behind mine and you only have aspirations. From one black man to another, I hope you are successful in whatever it is that you do...I wouldn't be uplifting my people if I wasn't sincere in that. But when it comes to fraternity business (I can't speak for Kappa) but there are things that these orgs (mine included) hold sacred...and a lot of it is secret. And if you can't be discrete about something as simple as being interested, who's to say you won't go flying off at the mouth to some aspiring young GDI that reminds you of you before you got down. All I'm saying is respect the organization in which you seek membership...in short CHANGE THE SCREEN NAME O yea...you're late with the pizza

I SAID I WAS THROUGH WITH THE TOPIC....but i just cant help it...... You just proved my point to not only me but everyone up here thats been following these post.....you think everyone wants to pledge because of the glitz and glam ( thats why you pledged not everyone is fake). I can care less about a kane or playboy bunny because I am not a playa...I truly like the frats goals ( my parents always told me what glitters aint gold...dont chase sh*t) and the members that i have met have been about something other then showing off.....thats the problem I have with Omega ....everything is like a big show to yall......majority to if not all of the dudes that pledged Que at Howard where not nasty and disrespectful like they are now...they didnt run around in purple thongs and bark at woman....they didnt progressive by joining Omega they regressed....they are now literally at the bottom of the social pool at Howard....they are known as the dirty dogs of campus ( but I guess thats what you want right).....yeah this is true some ques are down to earth just like every other frat....down to earth people are going to be down to earth even if you slap letters on they chest. And the comment about being secretive is bullsh*t...... not everyone has to know you want to pledge (just like not everyone knows I want to pledge...this is the net)...but there is a since of welcoming that frats need to uphold.....why would I want to be in a frat that beat me, abused me, made me eat ish, and other stuff for brotherhood....I am sorry but my brother never did those things and we have very strong bond that extends out of maternity.....if you cant come with a better answer for your argument you shouldnt speak at all....you know I am right and thats why its so hard to argue....we as a people are stuck on status and wanting dominate someone else because mentally we are still dominated by the post-institution of slavery....( feeling we cant beat the white man so lets beat on each other instead so I can feel more of a man)....getting your **** kicked is not being a man it makes you stupid....and this is officially my last post...if you have anymore concerns send it to the PM if not live good man and be safe.. P.S I will change my name since so many are offended though the only thing wrong in this argument is that yall are stuck on status.

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Mr. Chicagosocialite · Jun 2004

#22 Reply

kappanup wrote:
OoHDatDude wrote:
f*ck all that founding principles nonsense...that ****is played out and lame. you wanna join to "twirl" a cane and throw up a diamond because you seen someone do it and the ****was slick. let's be real man...you're just like everybody else who is interested in fraternities/sororities...it's the glamour and glitz behind it all that attracts you. I wanted to be a Que because they was the nastiest **** around and I like that shyt...that's my personality. On the flip to that, Omegas are some of the most down to earth, realist people that you will ever meet. Can set out a hop on the yard then 10 minutes later go to a meeting and get things done. That's Omega my friend. You're looking at it from the outside looking in. Yea we wear dog collars and whatnot...that even has significance...but I aint here to talk about Omega. Do I apologize if I have offended you in some way..hell no. should you apologize to me? hell no. you have your opinion and I have mine. However, I have concrete backings behind mine and you only have aspirations. From one black man to another, I hope you are successful in whatever it is that you do...I wouldn't be uplifting my people if I wasn't sincere in that. But when it comes to fraternity business (I can't speak for Kappa) but there are things that these orgs (mine included) hold sacred...and a lot of it is secret. And if you can't be discrete about something as simple as being interested, who's to say you won't go flying off at the mouth to some aspiring young GDI that reminds you of you before you got down. All I'm saying is respect the organization in which you seek membership...in short CHANGE THE SCREEN NAME O yea...you're late with the pizza
I SAID I WAS THROUGH WITH THE TOPIC....but i just cant help it...... You just proved my point to not only me but everyone up here thats been following these post.....you think everyone wants to pledge because of the glitz and glam ( thats why you pledged not everyone is fake). I can care less about a kane or playboy bunny because I am not a playa...I truly like the frats goals ( my parents always told me what glitters aint gold...dont chase sh*t) and the members that i have met have been about something other then showing off.....thats the problem I have with Omega ....everything is like a big show to yall......majority to if not all of the dudes that pledged Que at Howard where not nasty and disrespectful like they are now...they didnt run around in purple thongs and bark at woman....they didnt progressive by joining Omega they regressed....they are now literally at the bottom of the social pool at Howard....they are known as the dirty dogs of campus ( but I guess thats what you want right).....yeah this is true some ques are down to earth just like every other frat....down to earth people are going to be down to earth even if you slap letters on they chest. And the comment about being secretive is bullsh*t...... not everyone has to know you want to pledge (just like not everyone knows I want to pledge...this is the net)...but there is a since of welcoming that frats need to uphold.....why would I want to be in a frat that beat me, abused me, made me eat ish, and other stuff for brotherhood....I am sorry but my brother never did those things and we have very strong bond that extends out of maternity.....if you cant come with a better answer for your argument you shouldnt speak at all....you know I am right and thats why its so hard to argue....we as a people are stuck on status and wanting dominate someone else because mentally we are still dominated by the post-institution of slavery....( feeling we cant beat the white man so lets beat on each other instead so I can feel more of a man)....getting your **** kicked is not being a man it makes you stupid....and this is officially my last post...if you have anymore concerns send it to the PM if not live good man and be safe.. P.S I will change my name since so many are offended though the only thing wrong in this argument is that yall are stuck on status.

Personally, I feel both of you guys are behaving in a rather sophomoric manner. Kappanup, as a prospective member of a particular Greek org I understand your eagerness and will. Along those lines, I also understand how incredibly disrespectful you are being. Although, I do not agree with everything that has been said to you I still think it is only appropriate for you to humble yourself and show reverence; for they have already accomplished what you have your heart set to accomplish. I�ve found that if you approach Greeks in a proper fashion they are more than willing to interact with you in a way that upholds diplomacy. There has to be order and formality to everything or else there would be complete chaos. I�m glad you made the decision to change your screen name because not only is it blatantly disrespectful to the Kappas, but it is disrespectful to any Greek. Datdude, I was with you until you said, �you're just like everybody else who is interested in fraternities/sororities...it's the glamour and glitz behind it all that attracts you�. That�s a foul assumption on your part bro. Not everyone wants pledge for superficial reasons. Some of us really do believe in what the organizations stand for. I can only speak for myself but I know my interest in a particular fraternity goes far beyond the �glitz� and the �glamour�. Kappanup, I a hope you are successful in your quest to become a Kappa. Datdude, congratulations! I see you crossed this spring. I know it�s not an easy journey and I have an immense amount of respect for the courage, humility, and perseverance it takes to become Greek. Stay positive black people!