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25 reasons why I'm not mourning Regan!!! Posted on 06-11-2004
HU_Intellect

1-Nicaraguan contras. Reagan called them the "moral equivalent of our founding fathers." U.S. created **** army in Nicaragua murdered tens of thousands of people and destroyed a social revolution; today majority of Nicaraguans live in poverty in the 2nd poorest country in the hemisphere after Haiti. 2-PATCO. 11,000 union air traffic controllers fired by Reagan, opened and encouraged a new era of union busting by employers and anti-union policies. 3-Reganomics, as Papa Bush called it "voodoo economics," how to carry out the biggest tax cut for the rich and biggest military buildup in decades while maintaining a balanced budget. It didn't work. 4-Afghanistan. CIA created, trained, funded, and armed "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan, including Osama bin Laden, to fight the Soviets. 5-"Trees Cause Pollution". Said Reagan, removing thousands of acres of public land to hand them over to timber, **** and mining corporations. 6-Star Wars, MX "peacekeeper" ****, B-1 bomber. And other destabilizing weapons systems intended to foster a new arms race with the Soviets and create a new U.S.-first strike capability. 7-Bitburg. Reagan's pays homage to ****'s most elite military group while visiting an SS cemetery, calls the SS victims of **** "just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps." 8-Antonin Scalia. Appointed by Reagan to the Supreme Court. 9-Angola. CIA funds and arms a **** guerilla army that kills millions in a two-decade war, with an ongoing legacy of the world's most land mines. 10- Civil Rights. Justice Department slashes funding for civil rights enforcement. 11- "Aristocratic Movement". As one historian put it. Ron and Nancy become patrons of aristocratic culture in fashion, communications,etc. "Dynasty" and "Lives of the Rich and Famous" become major TV shows. 12- Iran Contra Affair. Secret White House cabal sells arms to Iran to fund contras, subverting the Constitution and avoiding Congressional oversight. 13- Guatemala. Rightwing, evangelist dictatorship funded and armed, with frequent massacres of the indigenous population, and 1/8 of population displaced. Dictator Rios Montt says on national TV he had "declared a state of siege so we could **** legally." Regan says Rios Montt had a "bum rap" on human rights abuses. 14- "Ketchup is a vegetable." Dept. of Agriculture says ketchup can be counted as a vegetable for calculating nutritional value in school lunches to facilitate major cuts in public school lunch funding. 15- William Rehnquist. Appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court by Reagan. 16- Savings and Loan ****. Created by banking industry deregulation,costs U.S. taxpayers billions to bail out failed S&Ls. 17- Homelessness. Grows by the millions as "Reaganville" homeless camps are created across U.S. Regan says many are "homeless by choice." 18- Conspicuous consumption. "Yachting," "Gourmet," "Architectural Digest," and "Wine Spectator" are the fastest growing U.S.magazines, with the aid of the biggest tax cut for the rich in U.S.history. 19- Industrial wastelands. Mass shift of high-wage industrial jobs overseas,creating ghost lands in the industrial heartland. 20- South Africa. U.S. opposes divestiture and continues to back white rule in Pretoria defying growing worldwide anti-apartheid movement. 21- CIA drug running. CIA supports drug empires in Latin America,including Manuel Noriega in Panama and drug kingpins in Colombia to support U.S. policies in region, fostering growth of crack and drug crisis in U.S. 22- Ferdinand Marcos. VP George Bush salutes Marcos' "commitment to democracy" as U.S. continues to prop up his dictatorship in the Philippines. 23- James Watt, Earl Butz, Ed Meese. Reagan cabinet members. 24- El Salvador. U.S. funded and trained death-squads and their government sponsors **** tens of thousands of Salvadorans, plus an archbishop and U.S.nuns. 25- Income gap. Richest 10% hold 73% of country's net worth following the Reagan years. Ratio of executive pay to factory worker pay goes from 42:1 in 1980 to 419:1. Got this in an e-mail, wanted to share.
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HU_Intellect replied on 06-11-2004 08:38PM [Reply]
d.blaze wrote:
70 percent is white but how much is the black percentage cuz if u think about it there's alot more white ppl than blacks i hate how yall try 2 mislead wit statistics give the man a lil props sh*t, he did help end the cold war
Nobody is trying to mislead Blaze. Peep, there are WAY WAY more white people on welfare than black people therefore no matter what the percentage of black people are the government is spending way more money on white people on welfare than black people. Good point though. And as for Reagan ending the Cold War this is true but you can't measure a president on one act, examine his entire Presidency I am sure you will see what I'm sayin.
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d.blaze replied on 06-11-2004 08:45PM [Reply]
HU_Intellect wrote:
d.blaze wrote:
70 percent is white but how much is the black percentage cuz if u think about it there's alot more white ppl than blacks i hate how yall try 2 mislead wit statistics give the man a lil props sh*t, he did help end the cold war
Nobody is trying to mislead Blaze. Peep, there are WAY WAY more white people on welfare than black people therefore no matter what the percentage of black people are the government is spending way more money on white people on welfare than black people. Good point though. And as for Reagan ending the Cold War this is true but you can't measure a president on one act, examine his entire Presidency I am sure you will see what I'm sayin.
i C where ur comin from but...u said not mourning...thatz real harsh anyway i C ur sayin how white ppl get more but itz all full circle is what i'm tryna say there's more white ppl on welfare cuz there's more white ppl it could also be said there's' more white ppl off welfare than black ppl off welfare also more white ppl means they're payin more into the government anyway so i mean...it just seems clear 2 me how it should work out however prosperity isn't an exclusively "white" trait...at least it shouldn't b but if we're dependin on welfare we'll only make so much anyway (lol welfare thing is a joke cuz of u n brova :wink: )
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G.O.M.A.B. replied on 06-11-2004 08:58PM [Reply]
HU_Intellect wrote:
BlackBrotha04 wrote:
HU_Intellect wrote:
BlackBrotha04 wrote:
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa! Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading.... -The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit! -I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry. -I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up. I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help. ....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
Haha good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments... -The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around. -Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first. -Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue. But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
You know what...starting now, Im going to adopt HU_Intellect's way of thinking.... -Im going to quit my job right now, cuz hey, the gov't got my **** -F dat, Im going to sit around the house like a pregnant mexican. why? cuz the gov't got me - Im going to hoot and holla as much as I can, even though im hollerin about a bunch of nuthin, im going to do it just to Prove My Blackness. -Im going to call everyone ignorant that doesnt agree with my '**** gonna sell me tonite' mind set. -Im going to call everyone a racist that looks out for the rich, even though there are rich blacks, **** always taught me that all blacks are dirt poor and need to be helped---so imma believe him...... Ya dig?
Ummmm... you amuse me slightly, but in a dumb a*s, point my finger and laugh at you kinda way. I could respond to your ignorace and make my I'm going to adopt Black"wish I was a"brotha's way of thinking, but your words speak volumes. Instead of me making you look even more ignorant than you have already made yourself look.... I will simply point and laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:
Key Points -U know why ur amused? The same reason I am......Because this is how u sound.... -No, patna, im 110% brotha ova here---no need to do nothing extra to prove it either.....(but that "wish is was a brotha" thing was funny though... :lol: ) -You keep saying im speaking volumes, but what you are saying (typing) isnt even worth a sentence. The same 'woe is me' argument...TIRED -The more you say (type) the word ignorant, the more ignorant u sound (seem) "......u isa buh ignoranta buh......... " - Please dont make personal attacks, keep it to the subject at hand....
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King_J replied on 06-11-2004 09:10PM [Reply]
J(.)Rhems wrote:
HU_Intellect wrote:
BlackBrotha04 wrote:
HU_Intellect wrote:
BlackBrotha04 wrote:
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa! Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading.... -The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit! -I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry. -I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up. I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help. ....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
Haha good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments... -The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around. -Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first. -Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue. But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
You know what...starting now, Im going to adopt HU_Intellect's way of thinking.... -Im going to quit my job right now, cuz hey, the gov't got my **** -F dat, Im going to sit around the house like a pregnant mexican. why? cuz the gov't got me - Im going to hoot and holla as much as I can, even though im hollerin about a bunch of nuthin, im going to do it just to Prove My Blackness. -Im going to call everyone ignorant that doesnt agree with my '**** gonna sell me tonite' mind set. -Im going to call everyone a racist that looks out for the rich, even though there are rich blacks, **** always taught me that all blacks are dirt poor and need to be helped---so imma believe him...... Ya dig?
Ummmm... you amuse me slightly, but in a dumb a*s, point my finger and laugh at you kinda way. I could respond to your ignorace and make my I'm going to adopt Black"wish I was a"brotha's way of thinking, but your words speak volumes. Instead of me making you look even more ignorant than you have already made yourself look.... I will simply point and laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:
Key Points -U know why ur amused? The same reason I am......Because this is how u sound.... -No, patna, im 110% brotha ova here---no need to do nothing extra to prove it either.....(but that "wish is was a brotha" thing was funny though... :lol: ) -You keep saying im speaking volumes, but what you are saying (typing) isnt even worth a sentence. The same 'woe is me' argument...TIRED -The more you say (type) the word ignorant, the more ignorant u sound (seem) "......u isa buh ignoranta buh......... " - Please dont make personal attacks, keep it to the subject at hand....
Don't worry, it's a Lurker u are arguing with
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G.O.M.A.B. replied on 06-11-2004 09:22PM [Reply]
Ok this isnt an argument, why cant two people debate without it getting personal..... A lurker....does that make my points less valid or something??????
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d.blaze replied on 06-11-2004 09:41PM [Reply]
J(.)Rhems wrote:
Ok this isnt an argument, why cant two people debate without it getting personal..... A lurker....does that make my points less valid or something??????
idk but i'm a junior bwa haha
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G.O.M.A.B. replied on 06-11-2004 09:43PM [Reply]
:evil:@junior I am not even a freshman yet....I guess im in middle school right now....
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HU_Intellect replied on 06-11-2004 09:54PM [Reply]
J(.)Rhems wrote:
Ok this isnt an argument, why cant two people debate without it getting personal..... A lurker....does that make my points less valid or something??????
Naw its not an argument. It's all love
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d.blaze replied on 06-11-2004 10:07PM [Reply]
J(.)Rhems wrote:
:evil:@junior I am not even a freshman yet....I guess im in middle school right now....
lol...would summer schooler make u feel better?
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G.O.M.A.B. replied on 06-11-2004 10:21PM [Reply]
HU_Intellect wrote:
J(.)Rhems wrote:
Ok this isnt an argument, why cant two people debate without it getting personal..... A lurker....does that make my points less valid or something??????
Naw its not an argument. It's all love
*daps*
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